diff --git a/src/ckdb.c b/src/ckdb.c
index 3b197309..ca6f1e33 100644
--- a/src/ckdb.c
+++ b/src/ckdb.c
@@ -31,18 +31,11 @@
  *  with an ok.queued reply to ckpool, to be processed after the reload
  *  completes and just process authorise messages immediately while the
  *  reload runs
- *  This can't cause a duplicate process of an authorise message since a
- *  reload will ignore any messages before the last DB auths message,
- *  however, if ckdb and ckpool get out of sync due to ckpool starting
- *  during the reload (as mentioned below) it is possible for ckdb to
- *  find an authorise message in the CCLs that was processed in the
- *  message queue and thus is already in the DB.
- *  This error would be very rare and also not an issue
- * To avoid this, we start the ckpool message queue after loading
- *  the users, auths, idcontrol and workers DB tables, before loading the
+ * We start the ckpool message queue after loading
+ *  the users, idcontrol and workers DB tables, before loading the
  *  much larger DB tables so that ckdb is effectively ready for messages
  *  almost immediately
- * The first ckpool message also allows us to know where ckpool is up to
+ * The first ckpool message allows us to know where ckpool is up to
  *  in the CCLs and thus where to stop processing the CCLs to stay in
  *  sync with ckpool
  * If ckpool isn't running, then the reload will complete at the end of
@@ -89,13 +82,14 @@
  *	TODO: Verify that all DB sharesummaries with complete='n'
  *	have done this
  *  DB+RAM workinfo: start from newest DB createdate workinfo
- *  DB+RAM auths: start from newest DB createdate auths
+ *  RAM auths: none (we store them in RAM only)
  *  DB+RAM poolstats: newest createdate poolstats
  *	TODO: subtract how much we need in RAM of the 'between'
  *	non db records - will depend on TODO: pool stats reporting
  *	requirements
  *  RAM userstats: none (we simply store the last one found)
- *  DB+RAM workers: created by auths so auths will resolve it
+ *  DB+RAM workers: created by auths so are simply ignore if they
+ *	already exist
  *  DB+RAM blocks: resolved by workinfo - any unsaved blocks (if any)
  *	will be after the last DB workinfo
  *  DB+RAM accountbalance (TODO): resolved by shares/workinfo/blocks
@@ -269,8 +263,8 @@ bool dbload_only_sharesummary = false;
  *  markersummaries and pplns payouts may not be correct */
 bool sharesummary_marks_limit = false;
 
-// DB users,workers,auth load is complete
-bool db_auths_complete = false;
+// DB users,workers load is complete
+bool db_users_complete = false;
 // DB load is complete
 bool db_load_complete = false;
 // Different input data handling
@@ -717,10 +711,7 @@ static bool getdata1()
 		goto matane;
 	if (!(ok = users_fill(conn)))
 		goto matane;
-	if (!(ok = workers_fill(conn)))
-		goto matane;
-	if (!confirm_sharesummary)
-		ok = auths_fill(conn);
+	ok = workers_fill(conn);
 
 matane:
 
@@ -792,8 +783,6 @@ static bool reload()
 	LOGWARNING("%s(): %s newest DB complete sharesummary", __func__, buf);
 	tv_to_buf(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_workinfo), buf, sizeof(buf));
 	LOGWARNING("%s(): %s newest DB workinfo", __func__, buf);
-	tv_to_buf(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths), buf, sizeof(buf));
-	LOGWARNING("%s(): %s newest DB auths", __func__, buf);
 	tv_to_buf(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_poolstats), buf, sizeof(buf));
 	LOGWARNING("%s(): %s newest DB poolstats", __func__, buf);
 	tv_to_buf(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_blocks), buf, sizeof(buf));
@@ -810,10 +799,6 @@ static bool reload()
 		copy_tv(&start, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_workinfo));
 		reason = "workinfo";
 	}
-	if (!tv_newer(&start, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths))) {
-		copy_tv(&start, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths));
-		reason = "auths";
-	}
 	if (!tv_newer(&start, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_poolstats))) {
 		copy_tv(&start, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_poolstats));
 		reason = "poolstats";
@@ -1184,7 +1169,7 @@ static bool setup_data()
 	if (!getdata1() || everyone_die)
 		return false;
 
-	db_auths_complete = true;
+	db_users_complete = true;
 	cksem_post(&socketer_sem);
 
 	if (!getdata2() || everyone_die)
@@ -2383,7 +2368,7 @@ static void *socketer(__maybe_unused void *arg)
 
 	rename_proc("db_socketer");
 
-	while (!everyone_die && !db_auths_complete)
+	while (!everyone_die && !db_users_complete)
 		cksem_mswait(&socketer_sem, 420);
 
 	socketer_using_data = true;
diff --git a/src/ckdb.h b/src/ckdb.h
index f4d43220..e8ecd940 100644
--- a/src/ckdb.h
+++ b/src/ckdb.h
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@
 
 #define DB_VLOCK "1"
 #define DB_VERSION "0.9.6"
-#define CKDB_VERSION DB_VERSION"-0.910"
+#define CKDB_VERSION DB_VERSION"-0.920"
 
 #define WHERE_FFL " - from %s %s() line %d"
 #define WHERE_FFL_HERE __FILE__, __func__, __LINE__
@@ -103,7 +103,6 @@ typedef struct loadstatus {
 	tv_t oldest_sharesummary_firstshare_a;
 	tv_t newest_sharesummary_firstshare_y;
 	tv_t newest_createdate_workinfo;
-	tv_t newest_createdate_auths;
 	tv_t newest_createdate_poolstats;
 	tv_t newest_starttimeband_userstats;
 	tv_t newest_createdate_blocks;
@@ -256,8 +255,8 @@ extern bool dbload_only_sharesummary;
  *  markersummaries and pplns payouts may not be correct */
 extern bool sharesummary_marks_limit;
 
-// DB users,workers,auth load is complete
-extern bool db_auths_complete;
+// DB users,workers load is complete
+extern bool db_users_complete;
 // DB load is complete
 extern bool db_load_complete;
 // Different input data handling
@@ -1835,9 +1834,8 @@ extern bool miningpayouts_fill(PGconn *conn);
 extern bool auths_add(PGconn *conn, char *poolinstance, char *username,
 			char *workername, char *clientid, char *enonce1,
 			char *useragent, char *preauth, char *by, char *code,
-			char *inet, tv_t *cd, bool igndup, K_TREE *trf_root,
+			char *inet, tv_t *cd, K_TREE *trf_root,
 			bool addressuser, USERS **users, WORKERS **workers);
-extern bool auths_fill(PGconn *conn);
 extern bool poolstats_add(PGconn *conn, bool store, char *poolinstance,
 				char *elapsed, char *users, char *workers,
 				char *hashrate, char *hashrate5m,
diff --git a/src/ckdb_cmd.c b/src/ckdb_cmd.c
index f957fd8c..cdfb2e0b 100644
--- a/src/ckdb_cmd.c
+++ b/src/ckdb_cmd.c
@@ -2174,7 +2174,7 @@ static char *cmd_blocks(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id,
 }
 
 static char *cmd_auth_do(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id, char *by,
-				char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd, bool igndup,
+				char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd,
 				K_TREE *trf_root)
 {
 	char reply[1024] = "";
@@ -2241,7 +2241,7 @@ static char *cmd_auth_do(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id, char *by,
 			     transfer_data(i_enonce1),
 			     transfer_data(i_useragent),
 			     transfer_data(i_preauth),
-			     by, code, inet, cd, igndup, trf_root, false,
+			     by, code, inet, cd, trf_root, false,
 			     &users, &workers);
 
 	if (!ok) {
@@ -2266,21 +2266,11 @@ static char *cmd_auth(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id,
 			char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd,
 			K_TREE *trf_root)
 {
-	bool igndup = false;
-
-	// confirm_summaries() doesn't call this
-	if (reloading) {
-		if (tv_equal(cd, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths)))
-			igndup = true;
-		else if (tv_newer(cd, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths)))
-			return NULL;
-	}
-
-	return cmd_auth_do(conn, cmd, id, by, code, inet, cd, igndup, trf_root);
+	return cmd_auth_do(conn, cmd, id, by, code, inet, cd, trf_root);
 }
 
 static char *cmd_addrauth_do(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id, char *by,
-				char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd, bool igndup,
+				char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd,
 				K_TREE *trf_root)
 {
 	char reply[1024] = "";
@@ -2329,7 +2319,7 @@ static char *cmd_addrauth_do(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id, char *by,
 			     transfer_data(i_enonce1),
 			     transfer_data(i_useragent),
 			     transfer_data(i_preauth),
-			     by, code, inet, cd, igndup, trf_root, true,
+			     by, code, inet, cd, trf_root, true,
 			     &users, &workers);
 
 	if (!ok) {
@@ -2354,17 +2344,7 @@ static char *cmd_addrauth(PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id,
 			char *code, char *inet, tv_t *cd,
 			K_TREE *trf_root)
 {
-	bool igndup = false;
-
-	// confirm_summaries() doesn't call this
-	if (reloading) {
-		if (tv_equal(cd, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths)))
-			igndup = true;
-		else if (tv_newer(cd, &(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths)))
-			return NULL;
-	}
-
-	return cmd_addrauth_do(conn, cmd, id, by, code, inet, cd, igndup, trf_root);
+	return cmd_addrauth_do(conn, cmd, id, by, code, inet, cd, trf_root);
 }
 
 static char *cmd_heartbeat(__maybe_unused PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id,
diff --git a/src/ckdb_dbio.c b/src/ckdb_dbio.c
index 36b2abff..4f29c233 100644
--- a/src/ckdb_dbio.c
+++ b/src/ckdb_dbio.c
@@ -4490,22 +4490,17 @@ bool miningpayouts_fill(PGconn *conn)
 	return ok;
 }
 
+// TODO: discard them from RAM
 bool auths_add(PGconn *conn, char *poolinstance, char *username,
 		char *workername, char *clientid, char *enonce1,
 		char *useragent, char *preauth, char *by, char *code,
-		char *inet, tv_t *cd, bool igndup, K_TREE *trf_root,
+		char *inet, tv_t *cd, K_TREE *trf_root,
 		bool addressuser, USERS **users, WORKERS **workers)
 {
-	ExecStatusType rescode;
-	bool conned = false;
-	PGresult *res;
 	K_TREE_CTX ctx[1];
 	K_ITEM *a_item, *u_item, *w_item;
 	char cd_buf[DATE_BUFSIZ];
 	AUTHS *row;
-	char *ins;
-	char *params[8 + HISTORYDATECOUNT];
-	int n, par = 0;
 	bool ok = false;
 
 	LOGDEBUG("%s(): add", __func__);
@@ -4521,10 +4516,6 @@ bool auths_add(PGconn *conn, char *poolinstance, char *username,
 	K_RUNLOCK(users_free);
 	if (!u_item) {
 		if (addressuser) {
-			if (conn == NULL) {
-				conn = dbconnect();
-				conned = true;
-			}
 			u_item = users_add(conn, username, EMPTY, EMPTY,
 					   by, code, inet, cd, trf_root);
 		} else {
@@ -4569,14 +4560,10 @@ bool auths_add(PGconn *conn, char *poolinstance, char *username,
 		k_add_head(auths_free, a_item);
 		K_WUNLOCK(auths_free);
 
-		if (conned)
-			PQfinish(conn);
-
-		if (!igndup) {
-			tv_to_buf(cd, cd_buf, sizeof(cd_buf));
-			LOGERR("%s(): Duplicate auths ignored %s/%s/%s",
-				__func__, poolinstance, workername, cd_buf);
-		}
+		// Shouldn't actually be possible unless twice in the logs
+		tv_to_buf(cd, cd_buf, sizeof(cd_buf));
+		LOGERR("%s(): Duplicate auths ignored %s/%s/%s",
+			__func__, poolinstance, workername, cd_buf);
 
 		/* Let them mine, that's what matters :)
 		 *  though this would normally only be during a reload */
@@ -4587,45 +4574,10 @@ bool auths_add(PGconn *conn, char *poolinstance, char *username,
 	// Update even if DB fails
 	workerstatus_update(row, NULL, NULL);
 
-	if (conn == NULL) {
-		conn = dbconnect();
-		conned = true;
-	}
-
-	row->authid = nextid(conn, "authid", (int64_t)1, cd, by, code, inet);
-	if (row->authid == 0)
-		goto unitem;
-
-	par = 0;
-	params[par++] = bigint_to_buf(row->authid, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = str_to_buf(row->poolinstance, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = bigint_to_buf(row->userid, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = str_to_buf(row->workername, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = int_to_buf(row->clientid, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = str_to_buf(row->enonce1, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = str_to_buf(row->useragent, NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = str_to_buf(row->preauth, NULL, 0);
-	HISTORYDATEPARAMS(params, par, row);
-	PARCHK(par, params);
+	row->authid = 1;
 
-	ins = "insert into auths "
-		"(authid,poolinstance,userid,workername,clientid,enonce1,useragent,preauth"
-		HISTORYDATECONTROL ") values (" PQPARAM13 ")";
-
-	res = PQexecParams(conn, ins, par, NULL, (const char **)params, NULL, NULL, 0, CKPQ_WRITE);
-	rescode = PQresultStatus(res);
-	if (!PGOK(rescode)) {
-		PGLOGERR("Insert", rescode, conn);
-		goto unparam;
-	}
 	ok = true;
-unparam:
-	PQclear(res);
-	for (n = 0; n < par; n++)
-		free(params[n]);
 unitem:
-	if (conned)
-		PQfinish(conn);
 	K_WLOCK(auths_free);
 #if 1
 	/* To save ram for now, don't store them,
@@ -4644,147 +4596,6 @@ unitem:
 	return ok;
 }
 
-bool auths_fill(PGconn *conn)
-{
-	ExecStatusType rescode;
-	PGresult *res;
-	K_ITEM *item;
-	AUTHS *row;
-	char *params[2];
-	int n, i;
-	int par = 0;
-	char *field;
-	char *sel;
-	int fields = 7;
-	bool ok;
-	tv_t now;
-
-	LOGDEBUG("%s(): select", __func__);
-
-	// TODO: add/update a (single) fake auth every ~10min or 10min after the last one?
-
-	sel = "select "
-		"authid,userid,workername,clientid,enonce1,useragent,preauth"
-		HISTORYDATECONTROL
-		" from auths where expirydate=$1 and createdate>=$2";
-
-	setnow(&now);
-	now.tv_sec -= (24 * 60 * 60); // last day worth
-
-	par = 0;
-	params[par++] = tv_to_buf((tv_t *)(&default_expiry), NULL, 0);
-	params[par++] = tv_to_buf((tv_t *)(&now), NULL, 0);
-	PARCHK(par, params);
-	res = PQexecParams(conn, sel, par, NULL, (const char **)params, NULL, NULL, 0, CKPQ_READ);
-	rescode = PQresultStatus(res);
-	if (!PGOK(rescode)) {
-		PGLOGERR("Select", rescode, conn);
-		PQclear(res);
-		return false;
-	}
-
-#if 0
-	// Only load the last record for each workername
-	sel = "with last as ("
-		  "select authid,userid,workername,clientid,enonce1,useragent,preauth"
-		  HISTORYDATECONTROL
-		  ",row_number() over(partition by userid,workername "
-					"order by expirydate desc, createdate desc)"
-		  " as best from auths"
-		") select * from last where best=1";
-
-	res = PQexec(conn, sel, CKPQ_READ);
-	rescode = PQresultStatus(res);
-	if (!PGOK(rescode)) {
-		PGLOGERR("Select", rescode, conn);
-		PQclear(res);
-		return false;
-	}
-#endif
-
-	n = PQnfields(res);
-	if (n != (fields + HISTORYDATECOUNT)) {
-		LOGERR("%s(): Invalid field count - should be %d, but is %d",
-			__func__, fields + HISTORYDATECOUNT, n);
-		PQclear(res);
-		return false;
-	}
-
-	n = PQntuples(res);
-	LOGDEBUG("%s(): tree build count %d", __func__, n);
-	ok = true;
-	K_WLOCK(auths_free);
-	for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
-		item = k_unlink_head(auths_free);
-		DATA_AUTHS(row, item);
-
-		if (everyone_die) {
-			ok = false;
-			break;
-		}
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "authid", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_BIGINT("authid", field, row->authid);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "userid", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_BIGINT("userid", field, row->userid);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "workername", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_STR("workername", field, row->workername);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "clientid", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_INT("clientid", field, row->clientid);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "enonce1", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_STR("enonce1", field, row->enonce1);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "useragent", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_STR("useragent", field, row->useragent);
-
-		PQ_GET_FLD(res, i, "preauth", field, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-		TXT_TO_STR("preauth", field, row->preauth);
-
-		HISTORYDATEFLDS(res, i, row, ok);
-		if (!ok)
-			break;
-
-		auths_root = add_to_ktree(auths_root, item, cmp_auths);
-		k_add_head(auths_store, item);
-		workerstatus_update(row, NULL, NULL);
-
-		if (tv_newer(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths), &(row->createdate)))
-			copy_tv(&(dbstatus.newest_createdate_auths), &(row->createdate));
-
-		tick();
-	}
-	if (!ok)
-		k_add_head(auths_free, item);
-
-	K_WUNLOCK(auths_free);
-	PQclear(res);
-
-	if (ok) {
-		LOGDEBUG("%s(): built", __func__);
-		LOGWARNING("%s(): loaded %d auth records", __func__, n);
-	}
-
-	return ok;
-}
-
 bool poolstats_add(PGconn *conn, bool store, char *poolinstance,
 			char *elapsed, char *users, char *workers,
 			char *hashrate, char *hashrate5m,