diff --git a/src/ckdb.c b/src/ckdb.c
index ccb994a6..a24a51eb 100644
--- a/src/ckdb.c
+++ b/src/ckdb.c
@@ -120,11 +120,13 @@ static bool replier_using_data;
 /* To notify thread changes
  * Set/checked under the function's main loop's first lock
  * This is always a 'delta' value meaning add or subtract that many */
-int queue_threads_delta = 0;
-/* Use -Q to set it higher
- * Setting it higher can degrade performance if the CPUs can't
+int reload_queue_threads_delta = 0;
+int proc_queue_threads_delta = 0;
+/* Use -Q to set them higher
+ * Setting them higher can degrade performance if the CPUs can't
  *  handle the extra locking or the threads are swapping */
-static int queue_threads = 1;
+static int reload_queue_threads = 1;
+static int proc_queue_threads = 1;
 // -B to override calculated value
 static int reload_breakdown_threads = -1;
 // This is normally the same as above, but key_update only requires 1
@@ -6231,7 +6233,7 @@ static void *process_reload(__maybe_unused void *arg)
 		running[0] = true;
 
 		// Set to create the rest of the threads
-		queue_threads_delta = queue_threads - 1;
+		reload_queue_threads_delta = reload_queue_threads - 1;
 
 		LOGNOTICE("%s() starting", __func__);
 	}
@@ -6251,9 +6253,9 @@ static void *process_reload(__maybe_unused void *arg)
 			break;
 
 		K_WLOCK(breakqueue_free);
-		if (mythread == 0 && queue_threads_delta != 0) {
-			threads_delta = queue_threads_delta;
-			queue_threads_delta = 0;
+		if (mythread == 0 && reload_queue_threads_delta != 0) {
+			threads_delta = reload_queue_threads_delta;
+			reload_queue_threads_delta = 0;
 		} else {
 			bq_item = k_unlink_head(reload_done_breakqueue_store);
 			if (bq_item) {
@@ -6362,7 +6364,8 @@ static void *process_reload(__maybe_unused void *arg)
 		tick();
 	}
 
-	PQfinish(conn);
+	if (conn)
+		PQfinish(conn);
 
 	if (mythread == 0) {
 		for (i = 1; i < THREAD_LIMIT; i++) {
@@ -6831,12 +6834,15 @@ static void free_lost(SEQDATA *seqdata)
 
 static void *pqproc(void *arg)
 {
+	static pthread_t pqproc_pt[THREAD_LIMIT];
+	static int n[THREAD_LIMIT];
+	static bool running[THREAD_LIMIT];
+
 	/* Process queued work - ensure pool0 is emptied first,
 	 *  even if there is pending pool0 data being processed by breaker() */
 	static bool pool0 = true;
 	static tv_t wq_stt, wq_fin;
 
-	pthread_t *queue_pt;
 	PGconn *conn = NULL;
 	K_ITEM *wq_item;
 	time_t now = 0;
@@ -6847,28 +6853,26 @@ static void *pqproc(void *arg)
 	SEQSET *seqset = NULL;
 	SEQDATA *seqdata;
 	K_ITEM *ss_item;
-	int i, *n, zeros;
 	ts_t when, when_add;
-	int ret;
+	int i, mythread, threads_delta = 0, done, tot, ret;
 
 	if (!arg) {
 		setnow(&wq_stt);
 
-		n = malloc(queue_threads * sizeof(int));
-		queue_pt = malloc(queue_threads * sizeof(*queue_pt));
-		for (i = 1; i < queue_threads; i++) {
+		for (i = 0; i < THREAD_LIMIT; i++) {
 			n[i] = i;
-			create_pthread(&(queue_pt[i]), pqproc, &(n[i]));
+			running[i] = false;
 		}
-	} else {
-		i = *(int *)(arg);
 
-		if (queue_threads < 10)
-			zeros = 1;
-		else
-			zeros = (int)log10(queue_threads) + 1;
+		mythread = 0;
+		running[0] = true;
 
-		snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "db_p%0*dqproc", zeros, i);
+		// Set to create the rest of the threads
+		proc_queue_threads_delta = proc_queue_threads - 1;
+	} else {
+		mythread = *(int *)(arg);
+
+		snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "db_p%02dqproc", mythread);
 		LOCK_INIT(buf);
 		rename_proc(buf);
 	}
@@ -6883,34 +6887,104 @@ static void *pqproc(void *arg)
 	// Override checking until pool0 is complete
 	wqcount = -1;
 	while (!everyone_die) {
+		if (mythread && !running[mythread])
+			break;
+
 		wq_item = NULL;
 		K_WLOCK(workqueue_free);
-		if (pool0) {
-			if (earlysock_left == 0) {
-				pool0 = false;
-				switch_msg = true;
-			 } else {
-				wq_item = k_unlink_head(pool0_workqueue_store);
-				if (wq_item)
-					earlysock_left--;
+		if (mythread == 0 && proc_queue_threads_delta != 0) {
+			threads_delta = proc_queue_threads_delta;
+			proc_queue_threads_delta = 0;
+		} else {
+			if (pool0) {
+				if (earlysock_left == 0) {
+					pool0 = false;
+					switch_msg = true;
+				 } else {
+					wq_item = k_unlink_head(pool0_workqueue_store);
+					if (wq_item)
+						earlysock_left--;
+				}
+			}
+			if (!pool0) {
+				wq_item = k_unlink_head(pool_workqueue_store);
+				wqcount = pool_workqueue_store->count;
 			}
-		}
-		if (!pool0) {
-			wq_item = k_unlink_head(pool_workqueue_store);
-			wqcount = pool_workqueue_store->count;
-		}
 
-		if (wqcount == 0 && wq_stt.tv_sec != 0L)
-			setnow(&wq_fin);
+			if (wqcount == 0 && wq_stt.tv_sec != 0L)
+				setnow(&wq_fin);
 
-		if (wq_item) {
-			if (pool0)
-				workqueue_proc0++;
-			else
-				workqueue_proc1++;
+			if (wq_item) {
+				if (pool0)
+					workqueue_proc0++;
+				else
+					workqueue_proc1++;
+			}
 		}
 		K_WUNLOCK(workqueue_free);
 
+		// TODO: deal with thread creation/shutdown failure
+		if (threads_delta != 0) {
+			if (threads_delta > 0) {
+				// Add threads
+				tot = 1;
+				done = 0;
+				for (i = 1; i < THREAD_LIMIT; i++) {
+					if (!running[i]) {
+						if (threads_delta > 0) {
+							threads_delta--;
+							running[i] = true;
+							create_pthread(&(pqproc_pt[i]),
+									pqproc,
+									&(n[i]));
+							done++;
+							tot++;
+						}
+					} else
+						tot++;
+				}
+				LOGWARNING("%s() created %d thread%s total=%d"
+#if LOCK_CHECK
+					   " next_thread_id=%d"
+#endif
+					   , __func__, done,
+					   (done == 1) ? EMPTY : "s", tot
+#if LOCK_CHECK
+					   , next_thread_id
+#endif
+					   );
+			} else {
+				// Notify and wait for each to exit
+				tot = 1;
+				done = 0;
+				for (i = THREAD_LIMIT - 1; i > 0; i--) {
+					if (running[i]) {
+						if (threads_delta < 0) {
+							threads_delta++;
+							LOGNOTICE("%s() stopping %d",
+								  __func__, i);
+							running[i] = false;
+							join_pthread(pqproc_pt[i]);
+							done++;
+						} else
+							tot++;
+					}
+				}
+				LOGWARNING("%s() stopped %d thread%s total=%d "
+#if LOCK_CHECK
+					   " next_thread_id=%d"
+#endif
+					   , __func__, done,
+					   (done == 1) ? EMPTY : "s", tot
+#if LOCK_CHECK
+					   , next_thread_id
+#endif
+					   );
+			}
+			threads_delta = 0;
+			continue;
+		}
+
 		if (switch_msg) {
 			switch_msg = false;
 			LOGNOTICE("%s() pool0 complete, processed %"PRIu64,
@@ -6995,9 +7069,14 @@ static void *pqproc(void *arg)
 	if (conn)
 		PQfinish(conn);
 
-	if (!arg) {
-		for (i = 1; i < queue_threads; i++)
-			join_pthread(queue_pt[i]);
+	if (mythread == 0) {
+		for (i = 1; i < THREAD_LIMIT; i++) {
+			if (running[i]) {
+				running[i] = false;
+				LOGNOTICE("%s() waiting for %d", __func__, i);
+				join_pthread(pqproc_pt[i]);
+			}
+		}
 	}
 
 	return NULL;
@@ -7019,7 +7098,7 @@ static void *listener(void *arg)
 
 	pthread_detach(pthread_self());
 
-	snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "db_p0qproc");
+	snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "db_p00qproc");
 	LOCK_INIT(buf);
 	rename_proc(buf);
 
@@ -8354,14 +8433,33 @@ int main(int argc, char **argv)
 				break;
 			case 'Q':
 				{
-					int qt = atoi(optarg);
+					// N for both or N:M
+					char *q = strdup(optarg);
+					char *colon = strchr(q, ':');
+					int qt;
+					if (colon)
+						*(colon++) = '\0';
+					qt = atoi(q);
 					if (qt < 1 || qt > THREAD_LIMIT) {
 						quit(1, "Invalid queue "
-						     "thread count %d "
+						     "thread count '%s' "
 						     "- must be >0 and <=%d",
-						     qt, THREAD_LIMIT);
+						     colon ? q : optarg,
+						     THREAD_LIMIT);
+					}
+					reload_queue_threads = qt;
+					if (!colon)
+						proc_queue_threads = qt;
+					else {
+						qt = atoi(colon);
+						if (qt < 1 || qt > THREAD_LIMIT) {
+							quit(1, "Invalid 2nd queue "
+							     "thread count '%s' "
+							     "- must be >0 and <=%d",
+							     colon, THREAD_LIMIT);
+						}
+						proc_queue_threads = qt;
 					}
-					queue_threads = qt;
 				}
 				break;
 			case 'r':
diff --git a/src/ckdb.h b/src/ckdb.h
index 8cec4bc3..2c8d8b02 100644
--- a/src/ckdb.h
+++ b/src/ckdb.h
@@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
 
 #define DB_VLOCK "1"
 #define DB_VERSION "1.0.7"
-#define CKDB_VERSION DB_VERSION"-2.404"
+#define CKDB_VERSION DB_VERSION"-2.405"
 
 #define WHERE_FFL " - from %s %s() line %d"
 #define WHERE_FFL_HERE __FILE__, __func__, __LINE__
@@ -123,7 +123,8 @@ extern enum free_modes free_mode;
 /* To notify thread changes
  * Set/checked under the function's main loop's first lock
  * This is always a 'delta' value meaning add or subtract that many */
-extern int queue_threads_delta;
+extern int reload_queue_threads_delta;
+extern int proc_queue_threads_delta;
 // To notify thread changes
 extern int reload_breakdown_threads_delta;
 extern int cmd_breakdown_threads_delta;
diff --git a/src/ckdb_cmd.c b/src/ckdb_cmd.c
index 1082560e..61ef1fff 100644
--- a/src/ckdb_cmd.c
+++ b/src/ckdb_cmd.c
@@ -8398,10 +8398,18 @@ static char *cmd_threads(__maybe_unused PGconn *conn, char *cmd, char *id,
 	    strcasecmp(name, "process_reload") == 0) {
 		K_WLOCK(breakqueue_free);
 		// Just overwrite whatever's there
-		queue_threads_delta = delta_value;
+		reload_queue_threads_delta = delta_value;
 		K_WUNLOCK(breakqueue_free);
 		snprintf(reply, siz, "ok.delta %d request sent", delta_value);
 		return strdup(reply);
+	} else if (strcasecmp(name, "pq") == 0 ||
+		   strcasecmp(name, "pqproc") == 0) {
+		K_WLOCK(workqueue_free);
+		// Just overwrite whatever's there
+		proc_queue_threads_delta = delta_value;
+		K_WUNLOCK(workqueue_free);
+		snprintf(reply, siz, "ok.delta %d request sent", delta_value);
+		return strdup(reply);
 	} else if (strcasecmp(name, "rb") == 0 ||
 		   strcasecmp(name, "reload_breaker") == 0) {
 		K_WLOCK(breakqueue_free);